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Calcium is calcium. IT is an element in the periodic table and the body's use of calcium ions cannot distiguish one atom from another based on where it came from, or how much it cost. It seems we are arguing about the non-calcium portions of the pills.

The cheapest one that doesn't give you constipation or gas (signs of malabosbtion) is probably just as good as any of the others. THere are a rare few who cannot tolerate one form or another, and for them a more expensive preparation may be needed. But any extra calcium that gets "absorbed" and is not immediately needed by the body, gets excreted into the urine and all you accomplish is to make your urine more expensive every time you flush.

Thanks I think? So the extra minerals along with the calcium in the algae don't really help with absorption or anything either? Sorry but I guess I am not too good at figuring this kind of thing out.

Thank you for your help

dxaguru,
you've said before (and I agree with that) "More is not better, and in the studies that looked at cardiovascular events, it was usually linked to taking calcium supplements over and above what was captured in diet. "

Here you say: "But any extra calcium that gets "absorbed" and is not immediately needed by the body, gets excreted into the urine and all you accomplish is to make your urine more expensive every time you flush."

This last statement of yours can in my opinion be interpreted by people as it doesn't matter if we "take/absorb too much" because that extra calcium will be excreted.
Maybe I see this as possible to misunderstand because English isn't my 1st language, if that's the case - Sorry /Lela

It's known what substances are needed for bone nutrition: calcium, magnesium, manganese, boron, zinc, iodine, Vitamins A, D, K2, B Vitamins, Vitamin C. Except for Vitamins A, these are all discussed in Lara Pizzorno's book "Your Bones." They are available in inexpensive forms from many online sellers, and in stores. If people want to fall for a fancy website and a marketing program, that's not surprising. Advertising works. That's why the Big Pharma people use Sally Field and TV ads for Fosamax. But the needed substances are actually easy to get and (with the exception of Vitamin K2 as MK4) mostly inexpensive. If you do the research, you can find them at good prices. My suggestion: don't succumb to MARKETING. Do your homework.

I think it is unwise to try to get everything needed in one supplement. That's because you'd either have to take too many pills or they would be way too large. By finding the best buys for each nutrient (or group of nutrients) it's possible to get everything necessary in the right amounts.

I have been on this site since November 2011, shortly before I found out I had increased my bone mineral density by more than 25% in five years. How I did that can be found in the discussion “More Success Stories,” here: http://www.inspire.com/groups/national-osteoporosis-foundation/discussion/m ore-success-stories/

After looking at every supplement that has been mentioned on this site in the last year, I still think NOW Full Spectrum Minerals is the best place to start. They are not expensive, and contain all the MINERALS needed for strong bones. Vitamin D3 is inexpensive, and there's no need to pay big bucks for it because it's allegedly RAW or hyped for some other reason. I get mine at www.SwansonVitamins.com.

You can actually get osteoporosis from a MANGANESE deficiency (the famous basketball player Bill Walton did), so be sure you get ALL the minerals, not just a few. (Too much manganese isn't good, either.)

I tried Vitamin K2 as MK7, but found that it kept me awake. MK4, though it's more expensive, has helped my skin and sinuses in addition to my bones. I suggest you try a small amount of MK7 and see if it will work for you. But you might want to read up on the two. If you have severe osteoporosis and can afford it, you might want to take 15 mg of MK4 3 times a day, which is the amount used in some studies showing its effectiveness.

The small amounts of Vitamin B and Vitamin C in many supplements are not too helpful. You might buy both as separate supplements. I use NOW Vitamin B-50 (once daily), and Buffered C-1000, (twice daily). Buffered C is calcium ascorbate, which is easier on your stomach than ascorbic acid, and it also provides 220 mg. calcium.

White bread, this is just for you: Many supplement companies are trying to make extra money by marketing various fancy trademarked (patented?) bone products to women who are scared about osteoporosis. It's a HUGE market, and it's driven by fear, one of the most powerful emotions. These products can range from $40 a month to much more.

It's known what substances are needed for bone nutrition: calcium, magnesium, manganese, boron, zinc, iodine, Vitamin D, B Vitamins, Vitamin C and Vitamin K2. These are all discussed in Lara Pizzorno's book "Your Bones." They are available in inexpensive forms from many online sellers, and in stores. If people want to fall for a fancy website and a marketing program, that's not surprising. Advertising works. That's why the Big Pharma people use Sally Field and TV ads for Fosamax. But the needed substances are actually easy to get and mostly inexpensive. If you do the research, you can find them at good prices. My suggestion: don't succumb to MARKETING. Do your homework.
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It's known what substances are needed for bone nutrition: calcium, magnesium, manganese, boron, zinc, iodine, Vitamins A, D, K2, B Vitamins, Vitamin C. Except for Vitamins A, these are all discussed in Lara Pizzorno's book "Your Bones." They are available in inexpensive forms from many online sellers, and in stores. If people want to fall for a fancy website and a marketing program, that's not surprising. Advertising works. That's why the Big Pharma people use Sally Field and TV ads for Fosamax. But the needed substances are actually easy to get and (with the exception of Vitamin K2 as MK4) mostly inexpensive. If you do the research, you can find them at good prices. My suggestion: don't succumb to MARKETING. Do your homework.

I think it is unwise to try to get everything needed in one supplement. That's because you'd either have to take too many pills or they would be way too large. By finding the best buys for each nutrient (or group of nutrients) it's possible to get everything necessary in the right amounts.

I have been on this site since November 2011, shortly before I found out I had increased my bone mineral density by more than 25% in five years. How I did that can be found in the discussion “More Success Stories,” here: http://www.inspire.com/groups/national-osteoporosis-foundation/discussion/m ore-success-stories/

After looking at every supplement that has been mentioned on this site in the last year, I still think NOW Full Spectrum Minerals is the best place to start. They are not expensive, and contain all the MINERALS needed for strong bones. Vitamin D3 is inexpensive, and there's no need to pay big bucks for it because it's allegedly RAW or hyped for some other reason. I get mine at www.SwansonVitamins.com.

You can actually get osteoporosis from a MANGANESE deficiency (the famous basketball player Bill Walton did), so be sure you get ALL the minerals, not just a few. (Too much manganese isn't good, either.)

I tried Vitamin K2 as MK7, but found that it kept me awake. MK4, though it's more expensive, has helped my skin and sinuses in addition to my bones. I suggest you try a small amount of MK7 and see if it will work for you. But you might want to read up on the two. If you have severe osteoporosis and can afford it, you might want to take 15 mg of MK4 3 times a day, which is the amount used in some studies showing its effectiveness.

The small amounts of Vitamin B and Vitamin C in many supplements are not too helpful. You might buy both as separate supplements. I use NOW Vitamin B-50 (once daily), and Buffered C-1000, (twice daily). Buffered C is calcium ascorbate, which is easier on your stomach than ascorbic acid, and it also provides 220 mg. calcium.

Hi white bread!
At this moment in my life I choose Garden of Life.I am still new to all.Will try and research the lead concerns.Have sought studies under PubMed re:algaecal toxicity to no avail.I forgot to mention on my post that I am also taking 10,000 IU of vit D-3.will be going to a Naturopath Dr next week.Maybe more answers.It certainly appears the Lily Pads is on the right track. I have not yet purchased L
Pizzorno's book Your Bones.Probably soon.I am also working on other issues via supplements and increasing my organics. As you well know walking and walking.I try and hike 4/5 x wkly using a backpack for the spine.Good luck! Keep researching!